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E-Flite 25 J3 Piper Cub
06-15-2006, 02:52 PM
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Eastward-Flite 25 J3 Piper Cub
Just picked 1 of these upward to advertizing to my cub hanger. I accept to admit, E-flite is doing it right. This plane is one of the best small scale cubs I accept ever seen. I am considering removing the dihedral from the wings to make its scale appearence more realistic. I wish they put this out as a kit! I would dear to build 1 from the kit class. The only affair so far I plant was that the motor mount that comes with the E-flite ability 25 was not 
drilled out for the 8-32 mounting bolts that come up with the kit and blind basics already mounted in the fire wall. I but drilled the correct size holes in the mount.
I am going to finish in Armed services Liason calibration stars to have another warbird. The ultra cote stripe and numbers come off hands enough leaving no visiable marks. I am using 4 Hitec HS225MG servos, Castle 40amp ESC, TP 2100 3s battery Xs 2 in parallel, half-dozen channel receiver. If this plane fly's as good as my other eflite planes, this will be a winner. More info as the build progress's and photos also!
06-15-2006, 08:22 PM
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It is a squeamish airplane. Promise y'all have a lot of fun with it.
06-18-2006, 11:45 PM
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I wanted that one besides but spent all my money waiting for it to come out (I actually spent more than that!!). I'll exist happily watching this thread for pics and video though. Adept luck with information technology!
06-20-2006, 08:25 PM
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Well folks, the maiden flight was flawless!! I flew for almost 25 minutes as calibration speeds. It fly's similar a much larger model. It does all the usual cub excercise's (hammer head, roll's, loop'south, cuban 8's, humpy bumps and and so on) with plenty of power to spare. Side slipping on final is a thing of beauty if its not windy. Will post picks soon and a Mpeg hopefully this night after this evenings flying. For those of you lot who waited, look no longer. No incertitude this volition become your adjacent favorite model. I had a feeling East-flite got it right. It balanced right on the money no modernistic's neccesary. I added a few scale touch'south like the vertical front end fly support in the forepart of the cabin and painted the inside yellow. Look for more soon.
07-02-2006, 02:43 AM
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OK, I forgot my camera iii times since the get-go flight. I finally got some shots today. I kit bashed some and stripped the cub stripes and tail decals off and put US stars and bars on to get a Usa ARMY Liason version. Yes, I know its not a L-4 but it looks not bad anyway. All flights so far have been in the 25 to 30 minute range. Super flyer, some what squirlly on the ground but in one case you get the tail flying, its fine.
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07-02-2006, 03:03 PM
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A guy bought one of these the other day, when I was at the LHS. Got the Eflite motor, and something similar a Thunder Power 3s-5million P massive brick of a lipo. Probably get over an hour out of it.
07-02-2006, 04:01 PM
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Looks really good! I similar the army decor. Can't come across how I can perhaps avoid this buy ...thank you!
07-17-2006, 11:44 PM
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Hi, I just bought one of these Piper Cubs from Due east-Flying. The people at the hobby store could not assist me in purchasing the proper components to make this matter wing, every bit they had no idea how they worked it seemed... So can anyone recommend everything I need? I have null but the fully assembled plane.. Demand a Motor, too as the radio and what ever else. One shop I went to recently said that information technology was going to take around $yard to get this going. Cant afford that, and so delight continue in mind a low, only not too depression, upkeep.
Thank you for the assistance
07-17-2006, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by nautilus_3 
Hullo, I just bought i of these Piper Cubs from East-Flight. The people at the hobby shop could not help me in purchasing the proper components to make this affair fly, as they had no idea how they worked it seemed... So can anyone recommend everything I demand? I accept goose egg but the fully assembled plane.. Need a Motor, as well as the radio and what ever else. One shop I went to recently said that it was going to take around $1000 to become this going. Cant afford that, so please keep in listen a low, but not also low, budget.
Cheers for the help
Dude!!! Check the side of the box!!! All the info you need is there complements of E-flight. If you don't wan't E-flight 'stuff' you lot can employ their info as a guide.....
Its gonna exist awsome!!!
07-18-2006, 12:10 AM
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I'g flying a .25 sized Fokker triplane with the Eflite Power 25 motor, Eflite 40amp ESC, APC 12x6 prop (not the slow fly!!), 2 Thunder Ability three prison cell 1320mah batteries wired parallel, Spektrum AR6000 rx, and 4 S75 servos. Go well-nigh 8-nine minutes of flying. Flies easily at half throttle. I've had great luck with both the motor and ESC. I recall that this is the ability setup they recommend for the Cub anyway. Just with a bigger lipoly. Just by using ii pocket-sized ones wired parallel I can also disconnect them and apply them in my smaller planes!!! Steve.
07-18-2006, 03:34 AM
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I guess your LHS is non very knowledgeable regarding RC planes. Otherwise y'all would be flying right now. As the previous comment says, check the box. Duh! The instructions also mentions various fly pack systems. I do recommend y'all use Hitec'southward HS225MG (metal gear) servos (nearly $27 just worth it). The plane is large enough to do some serious manuvers and the little plastic gears in nigh small servos would sheer very rapidly. If you lot look upward at the beginning of my thread y'all will encounter the items I put in the plane. Yous volition need to put at least 2 2100mha 3s batts in the airplane. It needs the weight to balance of this size battery fix. You could use one 4200mha 3s instead but I have other planes that utilise the 2100'due south from Thunder power. You need to make a Parallel ability connector to get to 4200 with two 2100 packs. For the E-flying power25 you are going to need at least a 40 amp ESC. E-flite makes ane perfect for the size motor/battery set upwardly. Read the manual. Leave the BEC connected.
As mentioned, the plane is squirrely on the ground until you fly the tail. If you lot are non a good tail dragger pilot you lot will accept a hard time getting it to track well. Merely fly the tail and you'll do fine. It too likes to have a bit of rudder when initiating a plough (as all cubs do Full size or calibration). other wise you volition elevate the tail around and your turns will look like crap. You can use a pocket-size 4, 5 or six channel receiver. I am using a 6 (borrowed from another plane) so I can get my airlerons to accept differential (more upwards then down). I recommend a computor radio. If you lot don't accept one. Get i. The fact that you can fly multiple planes from 1 radio is worth information technology.
07-18-2006, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Piperfan
OK, I forgot my photographic camera iii times since the outset flight. I finally got some shots today. I kit bashed some and stripped the cub stripes and tail decals off and put United states stars and bars on to become a US Regular army Liason version. Yep, I know its not a Fifty-4 simply information technology looks nifty anyway. All flights so far accept been in the 25 to xxx infinitesimal range. Super flyer, some what squirlly on the ground only once you get the tail flying, its fine.
Your cub looks very dainty. I like the stars and bars. What AMPs and Watts are you pulling and on what prop?
My buddy has one of these only he hasnt flown it yet. I can't wait to run across it fly. Practise you lot take and video of your even so?
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07-eighteen-2006, 05:xl AM
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Hi guys, thanks for the quick response.. Past the style, I did check the side of the box starting time matter. Wouldn't you know it, my hobby shop didn't carry whatsoever of the parts mentioned. I asked for like or equivalent parts and they couldn't assist out at all... Went to a few other shops and im being quoted, between $800 and $1000 for what I need. This doesn't sound right to me.. I figured that I would need to beat out another $300 to $400. So, that'southward why I'm asking you experienced RCAviators for advice or tips.. Maybe a list of equivalent parts that I could become and get without having to ask the guys at the hobby shop who seem to desire to rip me off.
Thanks again for the help!!!
07-18-2006, 02:34 PM
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I would go to the horizon web site and check what they are charging for the items listed on the box. Then contact your LHS to see if in that location prices friction match. They should exist the same or lower. If they are much higher and so horizon's contact horizon. The LHS should be charging the aforementioned every bit Horizon. Otherwise they are price gouging. My LHS gave me a discount on the motor and the servos I needed, since I bought them at the same fourth dimension. If you looking for a bang-up online dealer try www.chiefaircraft.com these guys take a great selection, good pricing, same day service (usually) and know there products. If your LHS is selling lots of RC automobile stuff nigh probable you will be taken for a ride. Not all shops are like this, granted, simply footing pounders but don't understand the fine art of moving in the 3 dimensional world. If y'all demand more than info let me know.
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07-18-2006, 02:35 PM
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I pull about 26 amps at full throttle. Not even close to the limit of my 40amp esc. 10x6 master airscrew E prop.
Video coming soooooonnnn!
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07-xix-2006, 06:33 PM
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I have this cub from E-Flight and took it out this morning for a test run. I found that it would not track straight on the basis. It kept wanting to plow left. I did a niggling adjusting and found that the more throttle I gave it the worse it got. I went ahead and gave it more than throttle got the tail flying and the turn to the left was worse (although the rudder was set for turning to the correct) It doesn't appear that either of the primary gears were dragging. My strip to take off from is asphalt and does slope downhill (to the right every bit you stand backside the airplane) In brusk I never did give it full throttle and put it in the air for fear of not being able to become a direct landing. I used everything recommended past E-Flight. Whatever suggestions or ideals would exist appreciated.
07-xix-2006, 07:thirteen PM
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This is pretty mutual with tail draggers. What prop size are you using? I recommend a 10x6. Whatever larger will creat to much forcefulness. The enertial forces set up by the motor and prop spinning without sufficient airflow over the control surfaces volition allow this sitiation to accure. I also recommend having sufficient rudder deflection to compensate for this. On take off, I accept my radio set for High rate with a good amount of exponential on Elevator and rudder. Asphalt makes tail draggers practise this even more than. Use the grass!! Hence the need for hi rates on the elevator once yous get moving the grass will create friction on the wheels and brand the nose want to rotate forwards. Its a fine line in command once yous get the tail in the air. I find almost pilots just give it full throttle and attempt accept off. You would non notice a full calibration pilot doing this? Why would a model plane do this? Its a common pilot error that is usually learned as a beginner and non broken. A good instructor will tell you not to practice that. If you lot are advancing throttle to fast, effort easing your throttle forwards to initiate frontwards roll and then increment slowly till the program is moving briskly. at that time give a small ( minimal amount) of downward lift to get the tail off and and then steer with the rudder to the right to compensate for the engine forces wanting to send the plane to the right. Hope this helps to get information technology in the air.
07-xix-2006, 07:38 PM
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I have a composite 12 ten 6 thin electrical prop. This is the prop recomended past Horizon hobbies and the kit. At about half throttle the tail comes up and I can control it but when I pull the trottle back it turns sharp. I suspected the torque was causing this to happen. I can get the tail in the air and could get off the ground like shooting fish in a barrel enough only fear how the plane volition react on landing. The grass in this expanse is also tall to attempt a accept off (but will absorber a botched landing). I guess I'll accept to just suck-it-upwards put the plane in the air and promise for the best. It'due south a very overnice plane and should have some expert flight charcteristics only with the costs involved I was taking it very carefully and slowly wanting to make sure I become many more than flights out of this plane.
07-19-2006, 08:19 PM
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Horizon recommends a 12x6 but its to big a prop for the plane, Effort a master airscrew 10x6 or 10X8. While I have some left plough tendency on take off, its not that bad. On landing the plane volition have sufficient airspeed to over come up any left turn tendency. Besides, yous will be coasting to a stop. I do touch and goes all during my flight (10 to 15 off a grass strip) with only a few incendents of left hand turning. That 12 in prop is to big. If yous want unlimited vertical, I am sure its peachy. Also the MA is a nicer looking prop. APC works good merely they don't wait very nice. I put APC's on my sport planes, but non my scale jobs. Don't you find that the prop is close to striking? Don't desire to do that with a out runner motor too often. That volition kill information technology quick or break a shaft. Equally mentioned, utilize the grass. All tail draggers do improve on and off grass. I know several full size tail dragger pilots and they prefer grass all the time over cobblestone. If y'all don't have grass cutting curt though, you will be stuck use the hard stuff. Exist careful, exist gentle and above all take fun.
08-18-2006, 04:29 PM
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Piperfan,
Did you use an MA electric 10x6? I bought one and it won't seat on the shaft right. The APC has a recessed area in back that allows information technology to seat properly. I'd similar to use the MA, as it does look improve, but it won't fit without destroying the prop.
08-18-2006, 04:30 PM
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Piperfan,
Did you apply an MA electric 10x6? I bought one and it won't seat on the shaft correct. The APC has a recessed area in back that allows it to seat properly. I'd like to utilise the MA, every bit it does expect better, just it won't fit without destroying the prop.
08-18-2006, 10:09 PM
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At our Almanac Electric fly this past weekend nosotros had an auction to help raise money for the club. I concluded up placing the high bid for one of these Eflite cubs, $100. I'll have to relieve upwards some money for the motor and battery, merely this volition be my 3rd Cub, I besides have a .40 and a Parkzone Cub. Hopefully I'll get it fix to go before long, glad information technology's got good reviews here. 
08-20-2006, 07:19 PM
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I had to ream the back side of the prop some with a prop reamer. I have several left over from my glow days. I only reamed out the bottom half of the prop. Its a unproblematic proceedure if your conscientious. And yes, you could go all the style thru. If you lot do you can ever purchase some brass tubing to and cut off a small-scale scrap to shim the outer department. MA also has wood E props. I am installing one today and will take some pix at the field soon. The wood volition actually add another squeamish calibration touch on. Let me know ify ou have more questions. Happy flying.
08-21-2006, 09:46 PM
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Piperfan,
Where are you getting the wood electric prop? I don't run into them on the MA website or Tower.
08-21-2006, 10:01 PM
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I used the MA Electrical 10 X 6 and yep experienced the same issues getting it to fit. However I work as an engineer and have done machining by trade so it was a simple matter to ream it out to the proper size while keeping the hole centered and the prop balanced.
I too am interested in where to find the wood East-props.
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